Yep, I forgot to mention right rudder. Just like I guess I forgot to stick some in on take off when I was having all the trouble with the Smith Mini plane last summer. Takes a while for us newbies to appreciate the need of using more rudder. However, adding the right thrust to the motor on this plane has really eliminated the problem of the roll off to the left. I'm still trying to remember to fly with more rudder input but for now this change to thrust angle has allowed me to get it off the ground bveautifully, giving me a chance to really fly it. I can't believe hpw great this little bipe flies and very easy to land. Gotta love thes bi-planes.