you pretty much have the 2 best for bashing in your thread... those are the 2 most popular for a reason the jato would be 3rd but its not much of a basher. if you dont like the firestorm and want something more durable than a rustler, the MT2 is just as durable as the firestorm and a little faster. also most xtm cars are good but you may have problems with your LHS carrying parts.