You posted this to Stick, but I think you meant it for me.
ORIGINAL: kid chuckles
BM why don't you as RED. He will give you information on anyone. He uses his position to freely post and e-mail anyones AMA # and information to just about anyone that wants it. How he gets away with it is beyond me. That information should and I think is private info. So therefore he is being corrupt in doing as he does with our personall information. And he has done this to several RCU members that I know of. He is not a good AMA person at all. IMO.
I think if you'll look back I've pointed out to Red several times where I believe he's crossed the line.
IF you would got to the Mark Smith forum and ask him what perks or other benifits he recieves from his position. I will bet his answer would be NONE. Does that surprise you. Those companies are nothing but lobbyist using the AMA for there own benifit. You tell me what other reason they would have to be on a committe at all. They should not be involved at all. That is a direct conflict of interest clearly.
That has been discussed here, and addressed fairly well, I think. I don't see conflict unless those committee members are actively promoting issues which they believe will help them but not AMA. Who better to help promote and market aeromodling and the AMA than those whose expertise lies with knowing and predicting where the hobby is going to be growing and where the opportunities are.
By the way, don't lose sight of the fact that it's a bit contradictory to claim what a failure the PPP is, and at the same time express concern that the committee members or their companies are benefiting from the program in a significant way. At this point the number of PPP members is but a drop in the bucket when compared to the volume of product that the major hobby companies need to move to show a profit. And if PPP does take off, don't also lose sight of the fact that it then becomes a win/win for both the AMA and the hobby companies.
Mark Smith helps them do this. That is no secret. Also if the committe members of any committe are not supposed to be revealed so they can be approached by AMA members, to hear complaints, or ideas, and then present them to the entire committe what good is haveing one to begin with. That is how things are supposed to be done. You don't start at the top and disregard the members of the committes. You talk to a member and give them your suggestions and have them present it to the head Chair person and other members, then they ALL decide wether it is a good idea or complaint or whatever. IF you have to go straight to the Chair and he decides on his own that something is not worth the time or effort then the members have no idea of what could or should have happened. This is giving ONE person the power and only ONE.
First, the EC sets the list of standing AMA committees. This committee isn't something that Mark Smith set up. If you think the make-up of the committee is wrong, then it's an issue for the entire EC, not just one member.
Second, I agree with you that the make up of all the committees should be posted as part of the list of AMA staff and officers. Did you think I thought this was a good thing?
This is a democracy here in the US. or so i thought. But by your posts you would rather it be a dictatorship style AMA.
Where on earth did you gat THAT idea? Because I don't think Horrace will be good for the EC? Because I think PPP should be given a chance to work before it's trashed? Because I don't se the conflict of interest that you see? What??
IF you think Mark does not get anything out of this then your blind. I don't know what he gets..............
That's funny.
............ but even if it is a free plane or a battery then he is being persuaded by them. Same as the guys that do reviews of planes. You don't ever see one say a plane is junk don't bother with it. The give is a good review and maybe a couple I would change this if I were doing it. Get a clue. This is politics same as any other.
Does that mean you think folks like RCKen and Minnflyer spend hour after hour putting together reviews on kits/ARF's etc because they get free stuff? Would you hazard a guess as to how much effort one must put into a detailed review? I suspect that on an hourly basis, reviews such as the one recently done on RCU on a well known P51 ARF don't "pay" very much.
The two main dealers on a committe that they directly benifit from is going to do what is best for them and only them. They would not say hey this is not working AMA save your dollars now would they? ON the other hand say hey YOU keep losing you will get it back someday but right now we are raking it in off this program and we are the ones that benifit, We think it is working good cause we don't do anything but gain from it. And Mark is right there beside them while they do it. But Mark is for us. Give me a break he is for himself and only himself.
I suspect you know little more about Mark Smith than you do any other member of AMA's elected leadership. Are they ALL that way?