Originally posted by J_R
Horrace
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2) The major difference between your view and mine is that you seem to believe the EC does counterproductive things intentionally, whereas I believe that they are simply caught by the law of unintended consequences.
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3) You sure seem to blow hot and cold about the election process. This is a quote from you. "Speaking of wasting money -- well, it seems 'ta' me that elections and meetings are useless and simply wasteful. No one cares about the work and responsibility."
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Perhaps, Horrace, you are getting caught by the law of unintended consequences yourself. Some do care about the work and responsibility... they are embedded in the EC. Not a bunch of Good 'ol Boys, but modelers, like you and I, that care and got themselves elected and give of themselves.
JR
2. JR, that is like me telling the Highway Patrol that I was doing 70 in the 55 zone because some others were passing me. It won't wash either with the cop or the judge. BTDT
Whatever any person signs his name to is -- in this country -- of his own free will and choice. Any EC member that votes FOR or AGAINST any proposal does so of his own free will. There are NO excuses and the only reason is because he wanted to. Now why one wanted to do something some certain way opens a whole 'nother door.
3. JR, you more than anyone can see the answer to that. I am totally FOR the election process. I am AGAINST the way the AMA membership ignores the process. (Same for real life) Yes, holding elections IS a WASTE of money because the membership IGNORES their one method to have a say in AMA DIRECTION and POLICY
Well JR, since I have also BTDT, I do not totally agree with you.
While most go there with the best of intentions, very few have the ability to stand and be counted day after day. Most people want to be LIKED. To be LIKED, one must be a member of the "me too" group and go with the flow. They like being liked much more than they like doing a good job as doing a job isn't remembered very long. The news media, seldom promotes the good job, but try to find , magnify and glorify some item into something bad. Example: The recent flack about those that PAY NO TAXES GETTING A REFUND. IMO those that pay nothing deserve the same. Therefore the average EC member knows that re-election depends on not being remembered -- he must be "good."
The average EC member soon attains the "I must be good because they like me," syndrome and says "me too" to the few strong personalities that run the show. They da-n well don't tell the membership about their views. They never liked me because I did tell, and because I never caught the syndrome.
One question JR: Do you think if the AMA EC had NOT been a condoning partnership, that the main event of last Oct. by the current EVP could have happened in an official AMA election? I certainly think not. No one has come forward saying otherwise.