Off topic here but Renegade you have a 2.5 right? they didn't have chassis braces so if your going to get one then dont fuss with the crappy traxxas one, get the M2C Racing brace. I was having issues flexing the engine bay with the stock brace and my modded 3.3 untill I got the M2C brace. Its almost two times as thick as the chassis [8D]