I can't think of A plane I have built in the last 10 years that the THLR method would work very well with. After the basic four channel plane my students learn aircraft set up as close to the way A good pattern or IMAC pilot would set one up. When they take there planes out to maiden, there planes take almost no trim but each of them have printed sheets from Pattern flying, Aircraft Trimming Charts. If you haven't seen one it's simple, you do this with your plane and watch what it does, then you make this adjustment and try it again until it's correct, very simple. I guess my hand is raised. Wow, that one little incidence meter and one little degree meter are sure A big mess. I know and see A lot of pilots that aren't good enough to know when there planes are in trim and flying correctly, they are having fun and don't care. For beginners it's A good thing to learn to do things correctly, or not. Some people just don't care or know any different, how about A hand raise from those folks! [&o]