I bought a use super tiger trainer and its in great shape I dont think the guy I got it from fly it. Wich makes me belive that it hasnr flown in a bit. I have been trying to start it and no go. Im just getting into this and Im starting it by spining it counter clockwise from standing in front of the plane. Im perty sur its the right way. and I tryed useing my starter and it put groves into the cone. Im prob all wrong but its fun anyways ;] thanks for the help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!