Not talking trainers, talking about there Extras and Yak type of planes. I don't think I have ever seen one of there trainers but the more advanced planes aren't bad at all. I think it's there 90 size planes on sale right now for about 125 bucks. I see A lot of them at the fields now. NOt my cup of tea but if you are looking for A good flying ARF then take A look at them. I'm really not an ARF guy but I have seen A lot worse for A lot more money. Just for grins I would like to strip one and go through the bones with some real glue and epoxy, maybe even some real wood then recover it and see how long it would last. Just A thought!![8D] How can you say no to 125 beans???