The truth is that none of the claimed torque values are real. If you go to yhe Troy Built Models website you will see realworld testing. The guys flying 40-50% size airplanes have to extra sure these things are right. The Hitec 5955-7955 are not as strong as the JR 8711 but the Hitec Ti gear train holds up much better in the long run and if you want you can even run them unregulated on lipo's( with a JR or spectrum reciever )and get massive amounts of torque and speed. Troy Built also sells the Hitecs at the right price.