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Old 11-19-2008 | 11:05 PM
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Default RE: field separation

PlaneJim
Perhaps you will suggest robbing banks and raping folks
to go along with your sugestions to violate AMA rules and Fed restrictions.

Why not, if your gonna break rules to have fun at the intentional expense of others,
break them all to have some cash & good times.


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Robo-
It's amazing how the Anti-club, anti-AMA sentiments come to light
Oh, I'm sorry, I had no idea asking folks to obey AMA rules was being Anti-AMA.
Or is it asking folks to not break Fed freq restrictions that makes me Anti-AMA?
Perhaps you could list what Laws I am allowed to obey without becoming AnitAMA, if obeying the Feds & Muncie is so wrong in your book.

Maybe when you get over your glee over someone else’s misfortune you can enlighten us as to where in this paragraph taken verbatim from HC's quote of the AMA reg. an AMA club can enter into a frequency agreement with the "rogue" (read idiot) flyers. Emphasized text added.
Robo, use more thought process and less emotion in your posts.
Rather than just declare you wrong with a soundbite, I'm not saying you are right or wrong, I'll let AMA text speak for itself. You do keep up to date with your membership manual and PDFs, as some folks below have done last time we chatted about this here.

[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6940449/anchors_6940449/mpage_1/tm.htm]Site Seperation thread:[/link]
ORIGINAL: abel_pranger

An off-topic meandering in another thread relates to AMA rules for flying site separation. For those interested, here is what AMA has to say about it in the Membership manual:

Radio Control Section, #5:
I will not knowingly operate my model aircraft within three (3) miles of
any preexisting flying site without a frequency-management agreement. A
frequency-management agreement may be an allocation of frequencies for
each site, a day-use agreement between sites, or testing which determines
that no interference exists. A frequency-management agreement may exist
between two or more AMA chartered clubs, AMA clubs and individual
AMA members, or individual AMA members. Frequency-management
agreements, including an interference test report if the agreement indicates
no interference exists, will be signed by all parties and copies provided to
AMA Headquarters.
Document #535-G—Variations forAMAFrequency Management
Arrangements
1st Party 2nd Party
AMAChartered Club AMAChartered Club
AMAChartered Club Club not affiliated with AMA
AMAChartered Club Individual AMAMember*
Individual AMA Member Individual AMA Member
Individual AMAMember Individual not affiliated with AMA
There can be more than 2 parties involved in a Frequency Management
Arrangement. Be sure to assign the designated frequencies to all parties and
inform all involved members (i.e. post the assignments at the flying site).
Please note, that only officers of the Chartered Club can sign the Frequency
Management Arrangements on behalf of the club.
Important:
Once a Frequency Management Agreement is in place it does not have to be
renewed on a yearly basis. It is valid until one or both parties (if AMAChartered
Club) disband, relocate, or sell the property. The agreement is only valid for the
specific parties named, which means if a club disbands and another AMA
Chartered Club/Individual Member uses the flying site, a new Frequency
Management Arrangement will have to be created, signed by all parties involved,
and copies sent to AMAHQ.
Participants in the Frequency Management Agreement are responsible for
informing any guest flying at the site about the agreement and enforcing that only
frequencies assigned for that particular site are used
Abel
Rather than basing you emotional outbursts on how you interpret a soundbite quote from a guy on the internet, perhaps you should read the rules of the org that you/me/he/we are suposed to be obeying. There is a reason I said they changed the rules not long ago to include non-members..... and that is because they change the rules not long ago to include non-members.
Read the membership manual, then come back and explain what all the non-member agreements are for.

Who said I wanted the club shutdown?
I have been trying for pages to have the club get a sfreq sharing plan so everyone can fly and make friends. If muncie has rules that could shut down a club, I would figure the club would want to avoid breaking those rules..... unlike the fine examples of AMA Members that promote breaking AMA rules & Fed restrictions.


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Bob
I've heard very little criticism of that group, just a bunch of arrows being slung at the club. If this group was responsible, the situation wouldn't exist to begin with.
You are perhaps not considering the swell acceptance a variation of Abel's "Draft Letter" got from the club fanboys last time we did this.
Post#11 from the [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6940449/anchors_6950457/mpage_1/anchor/tm.htm#6950457]Site Seperation thread[/link]. If we go back to Abels original Draft Letter, we see that the situation you describe, non-members attempting to be responsible and get a freq sharing plan with a club, was too outrageous and unbearable for some diehard fanboys of 'established' sites.