BLHollo, I already do have the P-51 from TF and just put it aside so when I can step up too it and root, I agree I am taking baby steps as I know I have much too learn, I did notice the tip stall on landings on the sim, I have mastered it down on landings with the P51 and have landed in 3,4,5 and 6 MPH head winds, down winds and cross winds. But my real airplane cert has really helped me out knowing just how much rudder too use pending on wind speed and exact direction being it 170 degrees or 40 degrees. BL That cherokee is dam sharp, BUT the only thing that really keeps me leaning towards the Pulse is it is a PNP and ready too fly, I have not built my own model yet but I am on here to learn too do that too, I would love to do my own. BL are you serious on the 7MPH landings, that is almost like nothing, at that speed someone can land that in there sleep, that is actually probably slower than my Alpha 40 can land but not sure on that but it must be really close in landing speeds. ALso on the camel I have, do you think it is a harder bird to fly than the P-51 I have? I thought Bis would be easier too land because of the amount of lift they have so you can do dead stick landings ( can you dead stick with a camel?) Also what aerobatic capabilities does the camel have and can perform? Will the camel out perform my P-51? So I made up my mind, its down too the cherokee which looks sweet as BL said and its weird as I just seen it the other day and watched a video on it, and I have flown those in real life and love the way they fly and land, they also do land very slow, not as slow as a cessna 182 but pretty darn close for a low wing plane. Now what do you fellas mean on landing the camel with its high landing gear? The thing I do not like on my camel is no tail wheel, so on landing I guess its going to go wherever its heart desires?? Or does it land somewhat straight? On Hangar 9s video on the camel check out their landing, it was a ruff landing and the right wing slammed into the ground, and I would assume that a hangar 9 rep was flying it, and I would assume he is a VERY experienced vet. The planes I would love to own after I master the hobby is one of my favorite planes of all time, the Corsair but that I heard is one handfull to land and fly in general due too the gull wing, the sundowner 50, The Pitts BiPlane and no doubt the TF AT-6. Thanks alot for all of your input fellas, its great to have people who are willing to help and understand I am buying the planes JUST to set aside while business is going well not knowing how it can be in the next months or so. But my itch was scratched after I got the P51 but got the itch for the cherokee or Pulse now LOL....Dam this hobby is going to be expensive, but all in all if I am enjoying it price means nothing. Thanks again.....