I didn't make it clear. Sorry, if you have follwed this thread for a while. I sure didn't mean you guys. There was a guy that was raiseing mortal h*&* with John. Calling him a crook & everthing else he could think of. His problem as best I can remember was; after his 3rd fight the plane crashed & destroyed everything ( motor bateverything & demanded a new plane, motor & everything else) John tried to explain that after 3 flightsyou know..you're kinda on your own. The "customer" just kept it up, on & on &on. Finally John told him he would replace his stuff if he would send it in. Then the guy started saying that he didn't have all the stuff. But still wanted it all replaced. Several other guys on the thread "it did draw a crowd" got after the guy & told him to back off that he was being very unreasonable. I never did hear what happened as I got tired of all the crap the guy was putting out.