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Old 12-09-2008 | 12:32 AM
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Default RE: Class C-Restricted?

Rafael23cc:
Since you are so smart, then tell me how will I be able to restrict the registration of my fun fly to helicopters only?
You simply list your event as a Fun Fly Event for Helicopters, such as, "XXX Club Helicopter Fun Fly." or whatever. A few airplane guys that do not read may show up, however you tell them that they were not invited.

If all CDs used "Fly-In" vice "Fun Fly" when the event is noncompetitive that too would assist in deleting confusion. However that is NOT a required item. The term "Fun Fly" is used with the "Competition Fun Fly", RB event 705.

Now go back and read the AMA rules you posted with an open mind, and you will find that what I have described is exactly what they say. >>>> Ref. Class C Events: The same date and area protection applies as in A contests. If restricted following the guidelines for Class B events, it should be listed as “C-restricted.”<<<<

Now go to Class B CONTESTS, as found under Sanctioned Events. Class B CONTESTS are described there, yet not mentioned in Contest Coordinator Guidelines. That is because no separation protection is provided for "B" contests or for "C-R" events. The restrictions for the B contest are only for PEOPLE.

The official Competition Regulations, General section, has no mention of C and C-R events. C and C-R are only found in the Membership Manual. Again IMO it's all a plan to keep the troops confused. HA!

DB decided that no event restricting any AMA PERSON from joining in the event would receive any distance protection in the coordination process. This all came into play when IMAA became a Significant Interest Group (SIG) and came under AMA's Insurance Plan by agreeing to require all IMAA members also be AMA members. I CDed IMAA events for a number of years, but not anymore. After much complaining to both AMA and IMAA with no response, I gave it up as it only created problems within the club. IMAA is the big loser, and AMA also loses because some folks just quit sponsoring events. Yes, I SPONSORED a number of IMAA events. Now I don't even CD any AMA Big Bird events.

The entire region of Sanctioned Events, along with all the associated sections contain a significant amount of poorly written and confusing information. Even so in the various events as changes are made but the proposer fails to identify all the associated items. Just a couple weeks ago I found some very bad information in the RC Scale event. I notified the Technical director and he went to the Scale Contest Board Chairman. They agreed and the new book is being corrected as we speak. You see AMA CAN be very responsive when they want to. OTOH it can work exactly 180° opposite.

Back in the late '70s I was involved in a project to rewrite the confusion and disorganization out of the Rule Book. So many others in that project only wanted to use the project to write in their own favorite rules. The project floundered and died. Just another example how some will always screw up what is started as a big help for all concerned.

Rafael, I don't claim to be so smart, however as a CD since 1963, I have to learn something if nothing except by osmosis. Experience is a great teacher if one is willing to add study and dedication to performing correctly. As a young person, I learned that simply doing what someone told you was a quick way to not be informed. So you go and interpret the regulations as you wish. At least now you have gone and found them all. How you follow them is your business.

In all reality, I doubt that whatever you or I do will have any effect on the next day's sunrise. Play it as you see it.