Thanks for the inputs you all are very kind and helpful. However nothing worked. The game controler issue was my Microsoft force joystick causing problems. That issue is now fixed, now i'm back to scraching my head and wishing it was warmer out side, (I'd rather be flying than dealing with this pice of junk). So I finally called Horizion hobby support last night, and I guess that this is a first for them. They collected all the info they could from me and said they would get back with me after the weekend.. So for the time being,, I'm going to put up some pictures of airplanes on my monitior and pretend to be flying,.LOL