I was messing around low, not too low though. Just enough to not have enough elevator to pull out. I just went to low rates about 15 seconds earlier and forgot that I did. Pancaked her right on the runway. Good flying plane. Wish I didn't toast it up. Didn't really have it long enough to 3D it really good though. I've read it's not a 3D monster, but the videos on their website show differently. I don't really remember see any real slow stuff though. I'll get some pics up in a little bit.