Daveo,
Thanks for the advice.... I will be buying the ARF. I know.... I would much rather build the kit which I will start doing once I get time. I'm no spring chicken and have a full time plus job and going to college at night so have so little time as it is. Oh forgot the wife as well. I will be checking tail feathers though on arf. What are your takeoff tips. I have a couple low wing warbirds that require I keep them on the ground till I build up speed. Need to worry about this with the Ultimate? Also my first Bi-plane so know to keep speed up on final.

Duke