Agreed John. However, I got a Big Stick 60 ARF for Christmas, and I programmed flaperons (pretty good amount too, probably 15 - 20 degrees) into it just to play around with and it's quite fun what I've been able to do. Last weekend I was doing touch-n-go's, diving the plane to the deck with the flaps down, and settling it right in. Another fun thing was with them down on takeoff, all I had to do was advance throttle and steer with rudder. The plane took off and climbed out by itself. I don't need the flaps by any stretch of the imagination, but they sure are fun!