They are longer than "I" looked. That set up has worked very well for a couple of years. Yes it is a hand full !!!!!! Did you set yours up with flaps or full length alierons? Mine is set up with flaps and you talk about some tight loops. One was so tight you could almost hear the wing crack[&o]. But Ben (my son) got it on the ground in one peice. Repairs were made and she still flies great. It's powered with a TT Pro .46 with an APC 12/5. I was afraid that was not going to be enough motor but, it will hoover at about 1/2 throttle and pull out just fine. I really like those Goldberg planes. I had a 67" Edge 540 that the expiration date come up on. They are no longer available. I sure wish I could find another one of those.