Ohh I know there are other formats around but they also put there rules up on there web site for all to read. I meant our rules were on the website and its really easy to find. I did not reallize at the time, but most people coming into this don't go right to the rules to figure out how this is gona be done. they just want some one to come allong and tell them about it while they tell of there exploding torpedoes that blow up 2k grand ships into tooth pick sized shrapnel. Those usually didn't think it out, and think it would have been cool.