Conclusion:
As I did try to explain many times before, the Taurus of Auction 2, now own by Duane Wilson (Kingaltair), really is the first Taurus Ed did ever make, started probably in March, April 1961

The biggest problem for me was ever, making my story believed, because whatever I brought they never did, all was turned around 180 degrees.
For the owner of the Taurus of auction 2 of e-bay (Kingaltair) all other messages were better than my messages. I was the only one!

What I read now in the article of Airplane news, November 1963, title: Third Radio Control World Championships (1963) did make it all clear to me; I was right from the beginning, right also on every moment in the Ed Kazmirski’s Taurus thread with nearly every fact.
The Taurus of auction 2 was really the, more times changed, original of around April 1961 and not only did I tell you this more times in the past, also Ed Kazmirski did tell this personally to Duane Wilson (Kingaltair)!

Because I now strongly believe the people of SPA and VR/CS already know this themselves I stop with proving and will not finish my action to make a duplicate of the picture of the crate. Even if I do an outstanding job, of course nobody will believe it in the future again, just like anything in the past and more Mac Giver stories will be the result.

I’ll finish the Wester Taurus, the plane of the crate, the copy of the Really Oldest Taurus on Earth.
I will use of course, without any problem, all the additional information I can put from the existing pictures of the Taurus of auction 2, from now on, to make it easy for me.

I want let Duane Wilson (Kingaltair) know; Ed Kazmirski was a real Master Finisher Himself and not only a designer and pilot, I did tell you in the past. You’ll never will see any detail of the modifications because what I understand from you, you never did design a model yourself.

Cees, Taurus Flyer

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There is nothing personal in my comments here, but with the less than complementary comments made about me above I feel I need to reply in some way. Just because I don't accept (along with others) everything Cees states as absolute fact doesn't mean we don't agree in many areas, or that I disagree with everything he says. There is room for a difference of opinion in areas where there isn't absolute proof.

MacGiver stories?? I believe at least one of the planes in the crate is the plane he first flew in November of 1961, (remember the Africa trip was in April of 1962...only a few months after the documented first flight Thanksgiving eve 1961). I believe he used that same plane, (although there are some wing changes discussed in the other thread), to compete in the 1962 Nats. I believe the Taurus 2 was built a few months later, and flew with the thick wing before the summer of 1963. This was the Taurus Ed flew exclusively after the '62 Nats, and was later the back-up plane for the worlds. At first he briefly flew it with the thick "Carrier" wing, (you can also tell this because the thick wing's paint and FAI sticker is in much better condition than the stripe painted traditional airfoil taper wing, (that doesn't have a sticker because it wasn't there at the worlds). This is the wing that fits the fuselage now, (in the color picture above), and is seen in most of the pictures of the Taurus 2 from 1964 on).

About the comment of using pictures of the auction of the Taurus 2, if Cees is using it as a model to pattern his plane on, I'd be happy to take additional pictures of the plane from any angle if it would be helpful to Cees. Just let me know.

About Ed being a "master finisher" I have no doubt as I said above. Cees implies that since he is such a master finisher, there would be no trace of modifications made to the original "oldest" fuselage. However, in truth, there is ample evidence where modifications have been made to the fuse as described in post 868 of the Ed Kazmirski's Taurus thread:

....My object was to try to restore it to the condition you see in the attached photo...at the time Ed was actually flying it. The effort was helped by the fact the airplane was in remarkably good condition for a plane of its age, (46 years). There was no evidence of crash damage, but some evidence of the plane being modified, (ie from the thick "Carrier Wing" to the traditional wing, and a minor change on the leading edge of the wing)....

Ed did NOT believe in making pristine mods to the plane. Where the wing saddle had been changed from thick to a standard airfoil, you can easily see every individual strip of balsa Ed used to build up the wing saddle. There have been changes/repair(?) to the wing where you can easily see the outlines of the changes. Ed did not believe in filler to make perfect repairs...he took no pains to cover up the changes he made. That's why I believe the fuse top is the original, along with the rest of the plane.

I find it interesting that Cees is quoting Ed from a personal phone conversation I had with him a few months before he passed away. Ed never told me the Taurus 2 was his original Taurus. Believe me, if I knew then what I know now, I would have asked more Taurus questions. Most of our talk was about the Simla. All Ed said to me was that he built three Taurus models, (if I understood him correctly). When he says "Taurus" I'm not sure if that included the Simla, (referring to it as a "larger Taurus"). My best guess is that he meant THREE TAURUS(S).

I will not contradict anything Cees says from now on unless he continues to bring my name up in his thread, and distorts the meaning of what I said.

Cees, again, I have no personal problem with you, and respect your intellect. We both love theTaurus. I will help you by taking measurements or pictures...just let me know.

Duane