thanks jemflyer, as i said i'm new to forums and if i had read some of the earlier posts i would have seen that a heli motor can go south EVEN when your nice to it.right now i'm still trying to get it to hover in one spot with the nose pointed away from me, so i'll just keep it simple and just replace the dead motor.i have looked at the electronics and nothing seems to be scorched so i'm goin to assume it was in fact the motor that died.by the bye the servos still work so thats a good sign,right?