With my ol trainer, I just traded altitude for airspeed since it would glide all day and give up elevator to flair and hold it on the back wheels till the nose comes down. I practically land it like a fullsize jetliner the way I hold the nose up for so long after touching down. The decathlon lands using throttle control, it has so much elevator that I rarely use it on take offs and landings. My extra is a different puppy, she changes with the wind conditions. I have her tail heavy for aerobatics so I have to use the elevator to get her to come down and basically do a 3 point landing.