Apalsson, Yes, that sounds correct. But I should have also said that as it's going down the runway at near full speed it would all of a sudden vear-off sharpley to the left [ about 45 degrees ]. That is no good and also resulted in it's crash. It began to tip-stall on the left wing, could'nt get it to recover and watched it do a beautiful cart-wheel crash. And yes, I was very pied. [:@] The wing on the ThunderTiger Decathlon is fully symetrical as it should be and that's what makes for fast landings and tak-off's. Seagull Models are a very good quality made ARFs so this is why I''ll watch this thread very close. I'd like a Decath back cause it was fun once it was in the air. SOMEBODY please get going on a build thread. MM Oh, forgot to mention, I do fly the Corby, 60 size and that 38% one too