I have looked at quite a few different model helis. How are the Exceed G2's? is that considered a micro? I wont mind getting a RTF, I crashed my cx2 so fast and often I learned quick on how to repair, however I can see the pride that could be there in building it up from a ARF. where is a good online source for the models you mentioned? I will spend the $, I know this is an expensive hobby but I race motorcycles and am going to school to work on aircraft so, in perspective it isnt that bad.