Perhaps I'm misreading your comments KE, but I did not hear a firm committment that the program would be ended if '09 goals are not met. That's not what he said, nor did I in my message There was no "yes I will work to kill it" if this year's goals aren't met. My impression from what he said is that he is leaning that way, but he did not go on record as saying such. I'm reading between the lines a bit, and indicated such in my message.