I just finished a phaeton 2 it is suppose to fly however you want to gentle or wild I also have a 4-40 bipe and it is an easy flyer and the wing is semi symetrical on both I also have the 4-60 in the box yet maybe i'll build it later this year .The phaeton 2 is still avalible from balsa usa and it was very simple to put together and is very sturdy can't wait for some decent weather to try it out