thanx chuckW. i appreciate the help. i'll probably experiment with the setup on the dx7 after the maiden. mainly want to learn my radio better. i haven't been using the dx7 long so i'm still playing with it. i thought the same way being a 40 size i figured the good ol' y harness would do fine. Good luck with the Extra. thanx for posting the pic w8ye, that's my newest toy. it's a magnum .52 rfs with a 12x6 , ar7000 rx, futaba 3003's all around and jr nimh batt. gotta get her in the air.