Im not getting into the SPAD debate, even though I love spads and thats all that I fly, spads are not for everybody. back to the thread. I would think that the very cheap and porely designed toy like planes are not good at all. the planes that are pushed on people because they want to make a buck. the 69.00 POS that would discourage new guys are definatly a no good plane. Im not into naming brands but there is a bunch of low end junk out there. I would rather see a new guy buy a nice trainer and setup and really enjoy it than have a horible time with a pile of junk. there are some great planes, nitro and elect that would serve that purpose. Also any plane that the Pilot isnt ready for, should be avoided. Everybody knows that we all want to fly the P-51, well there are alot of guys who have no business flying that plane .02