These two models are the exact same ones as has already been announced by Ripmax. They are 100+" wingspan planes and are meant for 50 size 4 strokes or similar electric. Current prices as released by Ripmax is 800 euros for the B-17. ASM is a distributor more or less as is Ripmax. It basically just depends on where in the world you live on what name the box will have on it.
Here is the thread about both on rcgroups with a lit more pictures then here:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1003823

The good news, since these are ASM labeled(and not just ripmax), then they can be brought to the US by various importers including hobby-people and Vqwarbirds.
Ripmax is only imported in the US by Towerhobbies and they arent doing so, but they continue to hold the exclusive agreement for such.