Same advice here. My friend has tried to contact fliton to get a light version, but didnt even get a reply.

So if you go ahead and buy a fliton Element 170 F3A, there's a chance you'll get a plane roughly 500 grams heavier than advertised and no way to change it for a lighter version.

Nice if you're not serieously interested in competing and/or need a not-to-expesive training version, but if you do want to fly contests, don't by a fliton, basically that's the conclusion I have to derive from this.

I had the plane over to check a few things and really.. the wing with servo's weighs down to 1350 grams. On the wing alone, that's at least 300 grams to much to be a serieous plane. I didn't have the chance to weigh the thing myself, now I did, so the weights in this posting are accurate.

Also I noticed that the construction for the stab is flawed. I know the aft tube is supposed to sit 'loose' (since it's adjustable) and the front one is fixed in the fuse. This is indeed the case with my friends aircraft, only the front one is simply to large, giving the carbon tube quite some room to move. When properly attachted, one can move the stab like 15 degrees up an down.

Since he doesnt have budget to go out and buy another (besides the question wether the new one WIL be on par with it's weight), he now has to fly with a 5.6kg 2m F3A pattern ship, which basically is nice for a high-wind trainer, but useless in all other area's.

I'm also in the market for a 2m pattern ship, but wont buy the filton. Instead I have decided to buy the slightly smaller Sebart Wind 110s. It's about the same price, and not that much smaller to make it useless.. (1m80 fuselage lengt). Other alternatives that are full size are the 'E-Evolution' (which is even cheaper than the fliton, light, comes with bags to transport it in, but is, in my opinion, buttugly), the 'world models spot-on', same pricerange, and so on. I'm sticking to the Sebart since I know I'll get a quality product which lives up to the advertised specs.

I have to note that the plane I'm talking about is an electric version (10S/ Axi). If he had built it with a fuel engine, say the OS 160FX, he might just have been able to get it down to 5kg, but it would still be either really close or overweight.

Also 'Extremeflight' will release their 2m 'Vanquish' which will probably be in the same pricerange. In short: anything you can afford is better than taking the risk of getting a 500 gram overweight fliton..

It's not even the fact that they are too heavy, but the fact that they are advertised to be lighter and fliton doesn't exchange heavy versions that makes me say don't buy it. The fact that they didn't even answer the email about the weight issue says it all.

It's really a shame, because in all other respects it's a nice plane at a really nice price.. sigh..

Could you PM me the email address you used to contact them?