I was not going to post in this thread again, but I have no real choice other than to defend myself against the serious , yet ridiculous charges made against me and my honesty by Cees Wester. What do you say about a person who accuses someone of lying, veiled in a story about "paintings"? He thinks he can get away with this because he carefully avoids using the word "liar", or "lied". Cees, your English is far better than my Dutch, but you do not have a good enough command of the language to write in metaphors. Something like this should be beneath you ....to sink to these kinds of charges for the whole world to see. I might question Cee's theory, but not his honesty. Did it ever occur to you Cees, for even a moment that I might be telling the truth, and that maybe you should adjust your theory to fit the facts?

Now it's time to cut through the BS, and respond in clear English. Nobody accuses me of lying without me responding.

First, this is a thread about model planes; in fact a plane that we both love. Your life is so wrapped up and twisted in your little version of the Taurus history, that if anyone doubts anything you say, you take it as a personal plot against you . Personally I have more important things going on in my world than this post...and as I said earlier when this came up, my integrity means something to me. Why would I lie about anything in a model airplane post for goodness sake...all I ever wanted to determine was the truth about what really happened back then, whatever that might turn out to be. You can't make unsupported claims of "prototype kit models" and explain away ideas of others without giving reasons backed by facts. Even though you have deveived yourself, I don't want you deceiving people like Andy Kunz; he deserves a clear answer in clear English.

On page 19 post 468 of the Ed Kazmirski Taurus thread I reported that Dennis Hunt, (organizer of the Africa trip in 1962, and currently involved in the SPA) told me he built a Taurus described to be as close as possible to Ed's. There were no plans or drawings available in late 1961. Dennis told me Ed corresponded with him during the late fall of the year by means of tapes and letters, and that sketches "on brown paper" were included, so Dennis could build his own Taurus. ( BTW-The Kaz in Africa article also says Ed corresponded this way). Dennis said he was posing with his own Taurus in the picture in the article. He later told me he was building the plane in case there was no corporate sponsorship, and Ed was unable to ship his own planes down to Africa . Remember the trip was scheduled for early 1962.....think of the cost of staging such a trip. He wasn't sure of sponsorship etc to cover the costs. Dennis eventually DID get sponsorship, therefore the crate was built, and the planes shipped.

Cees began to pick my post apart starting in his post #470 on the same page. At first he was relatively reserved, only saying that he had posted an earlier thread saying a pre-production kit was built. What evidence Cees has for this is never given; we were simply supposed to accept what he said no questions asked. So here we have two planes in the crate, and Dennis said he built one as well. I only reported what Dennis told me in the two phone conversations we had...nothing more. If Dennis had said something else, I would have reported that. I have reported facts that contradict my ideas several times as they became known, and I've changed my way of thinking as the facts became more clear. Just look at page 50, and the top of p 51 in the other thread and you will see this demonstrated.

OK then, Cees is saying one of three things. I has to be one of these:

1) I DON'T know Dennis Hunt at all, and that I am using his name without his knowledge, making the "story" up, ( translated lying) and saying Dennis is responsible for it.

2) I DO know Dennis Hunt, and that I either never spoke with him and made this all up, (translated lying), again using his name without his knowledge, or that I didn't understand what he said, and misreported it. There were two phone calls, and I misunderstood him both times.

If either of the above cases is true, then I REALLY AM a despicable character, by lying in another person's name. I am also pretty stupid, since all someone has to do is contact Dennis Hunt to verify my story.

3) Dennis Hunt is lying about the incident in order to make himself look more important.

Well, as for the last point, I've known Dennis for 4 years now, and I believe what he says. If he is spreading falsehoods that I'm passing on then I'm not aware of it, but I will believe Dennis over Cee's ideas any day of the week.

As I said before, I feel sorry for you Cees that you really think I would stoop to lying, or making up fantasies. You are basically an intelligent guy, but sometimes intelligent people fall into the trap of becoming condescending and superior to everyone else. You are smart, but you lack common sense. You have too much invested in this "Wester Taurus" of yours to be objective. You have become full of hate and bitter towards me because I had the nerve to report what Dennis told me, and I stick by what he said. You have no choice but to try to discredit me...in reality you are really deceiving yourself.

You have built a great-looking model, and I wish you the best with it, but don't you DARE accuse me of lying to cover up the flaws in your theory. We should be friends with different opinions but you are certainly making it hard to like and get along with you . Let people decide by looking at the evidence, and making up their own minds, not by demonizing me.

I tell you what Cees, I will prove I know Dennis Hunt, and will give you and everyone else his business e-mail address, and phone number so anyone may contact him. I doubt he will ever personally respond to either RCU thread because he has no interest in the debate, but he should respond to an honest inquiry. Will Cees call that number to confirm what I said? Will he apologize to me when he learns that I am not lying? No he won't, because HE EITHER KNOWS, OR HE IS AFRAID THAT I AM RIGHT in the account I have given. It is easier for you to slander me from across the Atlantic. I feel sorry for you that you have to resort to bitterness, sarcasm, and slander.

This thread deserves to be ignored, but it probably won't be because controversy creates interest.

The "Wester Taurus" remains the "Wester Taurus"

Duane Wilson