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Old 04-22-2009 | 12:27 PM
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Default RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread


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Whats the news?

Paul

no idea...
i spoke also to Thomas Singer , he does not understand eather, since it is a very forgiving airframe..
i think i blame it on :

being to Slow... and flicked out i must say there was crosswind when this happened.
what could also have happened , if the gear is out , the huge doors can cause also like 2 spoilers.
together with that crosswind it might caused it also to push it out of direction..

as much as i hate to say i think it was anyway a pilot error..
Hawk was never my cup of tea , but then i like the model very much..
it was not a radio problem , the turbine was never on failsafe or anything.


Sorry to hear that, nothing worse than a ‘don’t know’
I would just make a few points regarding Hawks.
I love them and have (as you know) designed and built many Hawks over the years.
The Hawk wing is not great (the full size was not either) and is susceptible to tip stalling.
The full size had wing fences and turbulators added to improve the tip performance.
It also had ‘toblerones’ fitted to the wing inboard to (I believe) produce a root stall ahead of a tip stall).
With the smaller wing these features (even when applied) do not have a major effect.
I have found that the wing needs to go out of scale and around 3 to 4 deg of washout incorporated.
Elevator movement can also be critical.
On The Fox Composite Hawk, Jim is VERY specific about elevator movement. He comments that excess movement will cause a ‘snap’. The new wing on his Hawk model has been changed and exhibits none of those characteristics.

I have not seen the wing on the Comp Hawk, so I cannot comment on it directly.
But these are just things I have learned over the years.

Once again, sorry about your loss.

Paul