Ok so I am gratefull for rcu........ for this website gives us the insight in many aspects of our hobby , one of which is (expectations) , from products , vendors , services etc THE REAL SCOOP if you will , with that said I ordered two sets of retracts from Doug and despite what is listed on the website and aside from what I was told I don't and didn't expect them to be in anytime soon , due to this thread and another similar previous one I ordered the two sets for planes I won't be done with and probably won't even finish in the next 6 months or so , I knew this going in , because of all of you , however what I am a little puzzled with is allot of people on here have expressed furstration for having waited a very long time , why not ask for a refund ? some did but most didn't and haven't why ? is the product that good ? is it worth all of the furstration you have ? I understand being upset but to those that have not gotten there order ask for your money back and be done with it , otherwise sit and wait and take your lumps because you chose to wait and make yourself upset , it is you that is doing it to you , because you do have options