Id like to get a losi but like i said the problem is the wife.. lol The bigger problem is that SHE is the one that works and i watch our son etc, (She has a better education than i do) So she knows how much we have and how much i spend.. lol Plus we are still young so she has a attitude about "her working for the money" so she basically gets everything she wants, Meantime i have to scavenge.. lol Im embarassed enough about her working and not me but eh, What can ya do? What i was trying to do was get her kinda some-what interested in the sport so that she might want to put something into it. Meaning more money for cars later on xD Until then tho i have to basically stick to the lower range. I seen the 8ight 2.0 and that thing is MEAN! lol I think i might have to stick to the CEN as i have already shown it to her and she said it looked "cute" She probably thinks i have my mind made up. I appreciate all the advice tho, And Foamy your right, I am new to the sport so i wouldnt know a good or bad deal if it hit me like a train. lol