lol I like the term "ferreted away" lol That shoe fits me pretty well actually. Anyway... Is CEN a top name in the rc game or just mediocre? I was also looking here on rcuniverse's classifieds and found a bunch of higher end cars that needed a little work or people just wanted to get rid of them for dirt cheap. If you directly buy them from here is there some kind of guarantee for your money? Im not looking to trade anything as ive seen ALOT of people complain that they got ripped off. As far as the Matrix R2 goes, Im not really into racing and like i said i am new to the sport so my main driving is done in my yard or in the street in front of my house. I just want a nitro that isnt going to break apart like my volcano after a few days of running it. The Matrix looks like it is made of some good parts so i shouldnt have ALOT of trouble, But i guess trouble is basically a givin in this sport. lol, So im not too concerned about that. For the $300 ill spend the CEN is a good buggy then?