Thanks Dave, Yes they are builder kits. I have built both the skymaster and the Cessna 310Q. Both were stolen. so I am looking for these kits, and know that they have been discontinued. They are in peoples attics and back rooms of hobbyshops and bought by collectors etc., but they are out there. I have a 7000 sq. ft manufacturing facility for my business which relates to general contracting work that I do, so I have adequate space to build models. I usually clear out the shop for about two months/year to just build models and it looks like an airplane factory and smells like a boat (fiberglass) shop...I am currently building several large scale (1/5 and bigger models). I want to add these two into the mix to replace them.

Thanks for your help
206flier