here is a follow up to the orginal post....replaced the CA hinges with flat nylon pinned hinges.....range check with engine off was good.....engine start at the field was normal but I had to mess with the throttle trim a tad (odd).....take off was normal but needed a couple of clicks of aileron trim....but I had just messed with ailerons.......rolls were ok as were a couple of Cuban 8's.....went into a big loop and as Pulled power off on the down line I felt like the airplane wanted to roll RT wing down......added power as I pulled up and all was fine....control was normal for a couple of circiuts in the pattern.....as i did this loop over a huge hill I am beginning to think it was turbulence or my imagination....</p>

Downwind leg at less than 1/2 throttle everything is good....reduced power as I turned to base leg and the airplane went RT wing down and behind a tree line...out of sight.....Added power and heard the engine spool up then gave up elevator hoping to see it pop up over the trees....after a while with no luck cut power and heard the impact....</p>

airframe in a pond....gear gone, motor, tank and firewall gone....aileron servos stripped (dual) but ailerons are firmly attached....got the airframe out of the pond and the foam around the receiver was wet.... cut it off to start the drying process....went home and opened the receiver, noticed there was corrision on the unused channels pins......and there was surface corrision on the circuit board.....there is no way the pond caused this as the reciever wasn't exposed to water more than an hour or two before I was home and opened everything....battery voltage good...</p>

after all was dry hooked up the battery and the servos that were left and they worked good.....did not hook up the y harness that was in the airplane for ailerons yet.....Oh and like a moron I cleaned the surface corrision off the board before I tried it on the bench.....</p>

thought you guys might like to know....good flying to all</p>