i had a cen mg 10 tr and all i can say it was poooooooooooooooooooooo with a big stink around it the parts seemed cheap and weak and really hard to get a order i asked for took nearly a month to arrive so good ol ebay seved its purpose and got it off my hand for a fraction of the price i bought it for. even the lhs that i got it from didnt stock the parts?? why bother and sell the product if it breaks so easily and if you do sell em at least stock the bloooming parts for it. well i have now moved on to my hyper st 123 mini and my hong nor crt5 and have never had 1 problem with them exept goingg to fast for a newbie lol but the lesson learned is DONT BUY CEN!!!