I've been flying the 'beginner' level in pattern flying. I thought I've been doing pretty well until today when I tried two of the 'intermediate' maneuvers - this stuff is hard!

I think my point is the people who proclaim to be experts might be just that at the stuff they feel like flying. Throw them a curve ball, give them a different plane or a new maneuver and see what happens.

I never trust ANYONE who calls themselves an 'expert'.