I didn't see it was an ARF until after I posted. His whole paragraph talked about scratch building kits and so I just assumed that was a kit as well. However, don't let stuff like that bother you. To each his own. As long as the hobby remains healthy in general, there will always be Kits to build for whomever wants to build them. As for me, I have only ever built ARFs because I didn't know any better and I'd hate for people to bash me and make me feel lesser because of it. I didn't have a Dad or anyone else introduce me to RC flying. I just went to a LHS and bought a Sig Kadet ARF because that's what the owner told me to do. Now that I've been in a it a few years, I want to build a kit. Some people may never want to but does that mean they should be treated differently?

Now, back on topic... About that .70 4 stroke?