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Old 07-02-2009 | 12:35 PM
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Default RE: Glow vs. Electric. Let the discussion begin.

ORIGINAL: Silent-AV8R

ORIGINAL: Taurus Flyer

When you write:
''I especially like never having to think about the engine dying while flying. The end of the dead stick as we know it!!''
Then it is time for extra education!!
When flying a real plane this way I never would be your passenger!!
OK, when the discussion comes to real airplanes then this might be meaningful, however, we are talking about toy airplanes, and more specifically the merits of electric versus glow power in radio controlled aerobatic airplanes.

With respect to dead stick landings, I am fairly adept at them with models. Besides pattern (and previously IMAC) I flew mostly thermal duration and giant scale gliders. Here in the US our landing tasks for soaring events is a great deal more demanding than the FAI circle. In our landings the difference of the width of a blade of grass can be the difference between a 100 point landing and a zero point landing.

I also have done hundreds of flights on my 4.3 meter ASW-27 and 6 meter ASH-6. So landing without power is really a non-event for me.

As far as educating me on real planes, I don't know what to tell you. I am licensed by the FAA for single engine airplane (ASEL) and gliders (aerotow and winch). All of my glider landings have been without power!!

So it is safe to say that I have more than a passing familiarity with landing both radio controlled and full size aircraft without power. Perhaps now you can enlighten me with information on where you think I require additional education in the matter.

The screen name ''Silent AV8R'' was not some fluke.


Silent AV8R,

When flying an engine powered model airplane, we have to be aware of the fact that any moment the engine can quit. Electrical or glow powered.
So fly on altitudes you can reach a safe place on any moment and fly a decent circuit when landing the plane.

I am not only talking about rescue the plane, also because of the safety of the other people.

When flying the real planes it is clever not to fly in positions it is impossible to reach a safe place with a dead stick, practice for that, and again also for other people!

When making a tow start (winch) with a glider it is possible you can get in trouble, when breaking of the tow. So always be aware of height during takeoff to make the choice to land “in line” or make a short circuit.
When flying gliders always have attention for ground circumstances, wind speed and direction, obstacles in case you are forced to land in the “field”.

When I read you write:

"I especially like never having to think about the engine dying while flying. The end of the dead stick as we know it!!"

You want make people believe you cannot have a dead stick with a electrical plane, and the glower does playing “Russian Roulette”.
Because you are a “real pilot" you know this is nonsense! Only trying to win!
When you use these argumentation in the real airplane, I do find you a bad pilot and will not fly with you! You must be aware of mechanical or other failures motor plane or glider!!


Prove?

You write:
"Here in the US our landing tasks for soaring events is a great deal more demanding than the FAI circle. In our landings the difference of the width of a blade of grass can be the difference between a 100 point landing and a zero point landing."
Look the picture, 2 m contest glider, designed by me especially for spot landings (1975/1980, runway 0 m). So these are all “controlled landings” without any risks.
I still have the plane now!!!

So argumentations “the width of a blade of grass”, you only use again for trying to win!
Nonsense in this thread.


Cees


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