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Old 07-26-2009, 12:53 AM
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Default RE: Two bolts on main shaft.... special steel or not?

Robert,

Thanks for the kind words! The Trex in that video is alot easier to hover than a Blade 400, and a larger heli is even more stable...the bigger, the more stable, and the more slowly everything happens... larger helis are actually easier to fly....but they sure do crash harder, and much more expensively...best to learn on the smaller helis first, in my opinion....

Yes, the heli in real life, and on the sim will be more stable in idle up, or "stunt mode" as Eflite likes to call it (and "F.mode"....very confusing at first!)

This is due to the higher head speed....think of a toy top or gyroscope you may have had when you were a kid...the faster the top/gyro is spining, the more stable it is....same thing applies here to the rotor disc on a heli....faster head speeds are more stable....BUT, they also increase the cyclic response...which is why it makes it more difficult for the beginner, not to mention it is just intimidating...the sound and speed of the rotor blades spinning that fast. I also have personally had a heli in idle up/stunt/f. mode get out of control much faster than it would have in normal speed...things just happen much faster when the headspeed is cranked up there....

So, more stable? YES.. Easier for the newbie? MAYBE... More intimidating? DEFINITELY...

It's up to you when you think you are ready for higher headspeeds...but that does not necessarily mean that the only way to have higher headspeeds is to go into idle up....changes to pitch and throttle curves, pinion changes, etc can also increase the headspeed in normal mode as well....but that is another topic...

One word of WARNING though....beware, that in idle up/f.mode/stunt mode, that the PITCH is affected as well as the rotor head speed...in other words, to achieve inverted flight, (which you would use f.mode/idle up/stunt for) you must have NEGATIVE pitch in the main rotor blades to fly inverted....

SO, that means that when you flip that switch, not only do you get higher head speeds, but the throttle/collective stick is effectively "cut in half" so to speak....everything ABOVE MID STICK is positive pitch...BUT, everything BELOW MID STICK is NEGATIVE PITCH....

What this means and what happens is that if you get in trouble, and slam the throttle closed, the negative pitch (assuming the heli is upright!) will SLAM the helicopter into the ground...because the negative pitch will drive it downward, in the same way that it keeps it airborne when it's inverted....you may have to picture this in your mind a bit....or better yet, try it on Phoenix....take a nice powerful electric heli like a Trex 500 or 600, and put it up about 30 feet in the air, and rapidly cycle the throttle/collective stick up and down in normal...and then do the same on f.mode/idle up/ stunt....you'll see exactly what I'm saying...[X(]

And it's alot better to find that out on the sim first....

Have fun!

Glenn