Thank you, please understand that I would never go all electric. I picked up severl NIB norvel 061 C/L engines at an estate auction for less than 75.00 I tradede a guy some 3D planes I didn't want for 3 NIB TD 051 and 2 NIB TD 049 (sucker he made the offer thou) I might do an electric vector. I love flying the baby clown WHAT A BLAST!! I really should lenghten the line. An unrelated question ever use braided fishing line? Its very light, has no memory, and its cheap. If so how many lbs test should I use for 1/2a plane and 25 size?