Jim - that is an awfully sobering picture! Sure serves as a nasty reminder of the danger of playing with the bigger engines - not that the smaller stuff can't hurt you as bad. I've got experience with big Super Tigre's and a Quadra 35 but am really just getting in to big gas (G-62). I've got a CH ignition conversion with electronic advance on it which sure makes hand starting easier, but I'm always so conscious of that prop! Kind of reminds of the old saying - you wouldn't flip a lawn mower on it's side and hand start it by flipping the blade, yet we are sort of dealing with the same kind of hazard with our big birds. Scary sobering stuff. Really sorry to see/hear of what happened to you and your hand. Hope you heal up quickly. Cheers