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Old 08-25-2009 | 11:07 AM
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ORIGINAL: adam_fozz

Insanemoondoggie thanks for the advice re 2/4 strokes...Keep quiet there starting again!!!

Anyway, nice video. Looking at the other ones that people have recomended I think I may need to explain what im looking for a bit more. I think that people seem to be recomending 3D planes (correct me if im wrong). If my understanding correct these 3D planes will basically hover. To me they always look like they are flying in galeforce wind and I really dont fancy that. Im looking for something that acts like a real plane. By acrobatic I means something like a single seater stunt plane (like the redbull planes you see in real life). You know, will do fast rolls one after the other etc.

I also like the look of stunt biplanes. How are they to fly?

Thanks again
Adam_Fozz
The Red Bull planes pretty much are 3D planes. There are videos of Red Bull planes taking off right into a hover. The beautiful thing is that you don't need to hover the plane if you don't want to. I fly mostly precision, but I also have a nice Yak that I like to fly. I try to hover it once in a while just because I want to be able to do everything, but mostly I fly precision/IMAC with it. You can get a 3D plane and not turn the rates up so high, and fly aerobatics with it.

Check out (search) IMAC flying - that is flying precision aerobatics with scale airplanes. Such planes are: Extra, Edge, Yak, Sukhoi, Katana, Giles...the list goes on, though I believe the Extra, Edge, and Yak are up there for the best flying characteristics. If you want a little scale aerobatic plane, Great Planes has a new little Extra out that is electric powered. I've heard many great things about this airplane:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXVVG4&P=ML
You are at least into a low wing sport plane so I don't think this would be too much plane for you to handle...

If you don't care about the scale part of the airplane, you can check out pattern flying - precision aerobatics with machines crafted specifically for precision. They look funny at first, but when you start to understand the engineering behind them and feel how one flies, it's very very easy to get hooked

To nicely tie this back to the original question, rudder is a HUGE part of flying these types of planes. If you end up getting into aerobatics, the rudder is constantly used for corrections during the maneuvers, and is a major part of many of the maneuvers themselves (snaps rolls for example are actually not supposed to be initiated with ailerons. Elevator is used to stall the plane, rudder to initiate roll). A basic roll is another example - it really is more than just banging the ailerons. Elevator and rudder are both used all throughout a roll to keep the plane from losing altitude. A properly executed roll is truly a thing of beauty[sm=shades_smile.gif]

Here is a pic of my 'dream' pattern plane:
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