Thanks everyone for all the good information and pictures that were posted. I would also like to thank Gene Greatti for sending me a personal copy of his DD flying...it was awsome...man, this thing flies like a Rocket....truly unbelievable!!!! I truly like this sport...where could you find people that would take the time and their money to send you a tape of their DD....thanks again for all the help and information...this is a awsome sport....thanks, Gerry