Hey Dave thanks for the pics and taking the time to help me out. I think you and I have a different set-up though. After doing what you said it only seemed to make matter worse. I found that my set-up has the tail blades spinning clockwise with trailing edge down. All is good now and I can't believe the responsiveness of the heli with these setting this way. HAHAHA I'll for sure be able to pull some loops and rolls. But that'll come with time, I'd like to get use to this set-up first. My 1800mah packs get 7 minutes flight time and my new 2200 got 9 and really didn't show signs of low voltage. I just figured it was good at 9 minutes. Switching to Idle up, I have no change in anything and it's awsome. I havent tried Idle up 2 yet though. Can't wait till I get out of work tomorrow and really get this thing flying around.