I got the ring to go below the ports so it was something else holding it up. Anyway, I put the top of the cylinder in my vice with gentle pressure and put a dowel rod through the rod bearing any pulled sharply on it and got the rod and piston out like that. I think this one is also not going to make it to the air as it also has score marks, worse that the Ryobi. The Ryobi might clean up. It was in a Troy Bilt TB 70SS trimmer and I did get it to start, just not stay running for over a few seconds. I tried a carb rebuild on it, my first attempt, and probally just did not get it right. I have learned alot about Walbros since then. I may tinker around with the Ryobi some more but think in the long run, I should just try to win me an Echo and go from there. New would be good. In one of the threads a guy that apparently builds them for sell said the 23.6 is the way to go. I am not sure how to find the model # for that one but will figure it out. Maybe.

Again, thanks much to all of you that tried to help me.

Bill