here here bog4d this might be the issue at hand. everyone needs to know and follow the rules. the pattern should be set by the wind condition except the occaisional direct cross wind.3d fliers should never hover over the runway unless they are flying in a gaggle with like others or if there by them self. we have a rule 3 in the air unless its a really busy day and then its 4 no hovering over the runway. the pattern is set by the wind direction or a agreement from the first guy in the air has been made. i would be careful of making a big deal of it and i see from a few responses others are choosing sides in me vs them. a bad thing to start. in an 8 hour day there is a lot of 12 minute blocks to fly in. communication is the key to getting along. if you talk with the others openly everything is good. if you do what we are doing here it seems as if it is worse and causes hard feelings and division in us vs them.every member should know all the rules of their club and be able to nicely speak to any guest and explain them. but it starts with everyone knowing the rules. what to do with air hogs sounds harsh early on.