I thought the whole Mini thing would be great too so I bought my first mini about 3 years ago. It was a Mini Quake and it was a complete piece of junk. So I turned around and sold it. After talking to a few people I was convinced to buy another Mini Quake but this time I got the SE Pro and it's been a great truck that's fun to run. I've also owned a Mini Baja, LST, RC18B and a Tamiya mini Fox. All but the Mini Quake SE Pro and Mini Fox have been sold. I only kept those two so the GF and I would have something to run around the house in the winter. I have yet to see a mini that was any good out doors. They're just too small for my taste.